Average cycling speed
One of the most common questions among new cyclists - and one of the hardest to give a sensible answer to - is the average speed of a cyclist.
There are lots of reasons why average speed can't be used as a reliable measure of comparison, which mostly come down to the following:
Riding conditions
If you live in Norfolk, where hills are few and far between, your experience will bear little comparison with a rider setting off to the Lake District each week. The rolling hills of the Cotswolds are not the same as the Scottish highlands.
So hearing from someone else that their average speed is, say, 20 miles per hour, means very little if you don't know where they are riding.
Some areas are naturally and frequently exposed to high winds. Wind has a very significant impact on cycling speed, even quite gentle wind. Likewise temperature is a factor, with very hot and cold weather both acting to reduce average speed.
Equipment
It's not about the bike? Well perhaps just a bit, especially where weight is concerned. Cyclists who have changed to carbon fibre bikes have told me their speed increased immediately by 5-10%. This was a greater improvement than I expected, and perhaps would only make such an important difference for cyclists in great shape.
Peripheral equipment like tyres can also make a small difference in weight and speed.
I suspect, but can't prove it, that the psychological impact of buying a lighter / more expensive bike also plays a role - if you think you will go faster...you will go faster.
But if you are overweight yourself, saving a kilo on the bike will make a smaller difference.
Distance covered
Average speed varies to an extent with distance covered. Rides less than an hour or so in length will usually have a slightly lower average speed, because the first part of a ride is slower as your legs warm up. Rides between one and two hours usually have the greatest average speed. Then for longer rides the average speed will often start to fall slightly, as fatigue plays an increasing role. For many of us rides over about three hours can become very tiring (assuming a reasonable sustained effort during those three hours!)
Cyclist age
Cyclist age is important, but often less so than the number of years experience that the cyclist has.
Over the years cyclists accumulate a greater proportion of 'slow twitch' muscle fibres in their legs. Heart and lungs will often be strong and efficient. But age counts against all of us!
Older riders will usually be less strong at fast sprints or bursts up short hills, but very good at maintaining steady speed over longer distances. There are lots of 40-50 year old cyclists who can hold their own in rides with 25 year olds.
Teamwork
Cycling in a group - paceline riding - has very significant benefits. For much of the time you will be 'drafting' the person in front ie experiencing limited wind resistance yourself. Although the benefits this provides will vary with conditions and the number of people in the group, it is often said that average speed will increase 20-30% as a result of cycling in a group, even more.
So it is very unlikely your average solo cycling speed will be comparable with the local cycling group. The Tour de France riders achieve 25 miles per hour over 125 miles, but that is very much due to the large size of the peloton (group of cyclists).
Average cycling speed - indications
Bearing in mind all the provisos above, you still want to know 'average cycling speed? Hear are some general guidelines, all for solo riders on general 'mixed' terrain (ie rolling hills about 30% of the time, and pretty flat the rest of the time):
- Beginner, short distance (say 10-15 miles): average speed 12 mph. Most cyclists can achieve 10-12 mph average very quickly with limited training
- More experienced, short-medium distance (say 20-30 miles): average speed 15-16 mph
- Reasonable experience, medium (say 40 miles): average speed 16-19 mph
- Quite competent club rider, some regular training likely, medium-long distances (say 50-60 miles): 20-24 mph
Many cyclists never get an average speed over 13-15 mph, don't worry about it, enjoy yourself. Plenty of cyclists can maintain 25+ mph over long distances, especially if conditions are flat or they are cycling in groups.



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Sunday, 23 May 2010
average speed for 60 miles was
around 18 mph, my time was 3 hours
and 10 minutes.
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Saturday, 26 June 2010
One day we met two other cyclists going the same way, and working as a train, our average got to 15 mph.
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Monday, 28 June 2010
Then I started grad school in Austin and put the bike away for almost 2 years, until the start of this month.
I live in a new development, and have carved out a 3 mile loop where all but two stops are for traffic in the opposite directions. The other two I have the stops, I can see long ahead if the intersection is clear or will be occupied and ride accordingly. However, on a 30 mile ride, there are between 7-10 times where I have to stop/come very close to stopping, which always lowers average speed.
I've been riding almost daily since the first weekend in June and am now up to 30 miles per day. The terrain is pretty much flat here - some gently inclines, but nothing even close to rolling hills. I started early this morning and averaged 18.2 mph. I did the same distance on the same route yesterday at high noon with wind and averaged 17.5 mph with about the same number of traffic conditions. I had to work a lot harder for that 17.5 MPH according to my heart monitor - an extra 700 calories worth.
Road biking is so beautiful with two machines working as one for the singular purpose of speed. I'm so happy to be at it again.
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Tuesday, 29 June 2010
I agree with Pete, although average speed is not the best way of judging fitness and improvement, it is probably the easiest and as a general guide for beginners not such a bad indication and can indicate a general trend. When it stops going up then I guess you have to be a little more sophisticated about how you guage things.
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Thursday, 01 July 2010
On top of the variable mentioned at the top of the article I would add quality of the road surface. There is one hill on the route that is a steady drag for about a mile and suc is the low qualiy of the tarmac that it rides much, much harder than the much steeper hills on the route.
The final point I note is that since I hit 30, my performance drops off much quicker if I have had even a couple of weeks off the bike.
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Thursday, 01 July 2010
That's an excellent point you make about road surface and I completely agree that it makes a very big difference, both to speed and (probably more important) to the enjoyment of the ride.
James makes this comment
Monday, 12 July 2010
I have steadily increased my speed and stamina over the past 2 years. I have lost over 4 stone and have gone from 7 miles twice a week at 14mph avg to 125 plus miles a week 5 by 10mi and 5 by 15mi and the occasional added ride at the w/e around 17.5 mph avg. some days I have a headwind and It can really knock me from what I could do for instance 21mph down to 17 mph. recently I did a 40mi, 50mi, and 70mi ride which accumulatively averaged around 16mph.
I have also noticed some other things that really affect my rides except for the wind, hills and mechanicals:
Mentality, somedays I just don't feel right and struggle. Lack of sleep, sometimes it is a struggle and other times has worked in my favour. Food, if I have had a big meal the night before or eaten fatty or acidic foods before riding it really knocks my ride. also taking on carbs regularly throughout a session seems to help me. Drink, booze the night before, not loads but a little is enough to slow me down. Also lack of hydration. If I drink lots of water maybe 100mls every mile it really helps my work rate to stay stable. Stretching and warmining up, something I am bad at yet I know that when I do my muscles tend to work better and don't stiffen up so much. Traffic and stuff, well, annoyiongly if you do short suburban to urban runs, small jams, lights, road works, buses etc seems to make your avg really come down. i don't really worry about checking my avg on commutes because it is so varied. One day I can do an 8 mile route in 25 mins and other days 35 mins just from traffic.
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Tuesday, 13 July 2010
Your speed over a 30+ miles ride is probably a better guide than over 10-15 miles which is a bit shorter than most club riders would do. I'm guessing that losing 4 stone has made a big difference, and losing some more weight will carry on bringing improvements.
I'd try and do some more club rides, it's the best way to see how you compare with other riders and to know when you're ready to race.
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Saturday, 17 July 2010
Today morning i took it for a ride after about 2months and averaged ~25Km/h .... Usually i do around 30Km/h.
Sorry we dont have miles and MPH here, just kilometers and KMH
Roads aren't good either
dreaming about riding a road bike on a flat road
anyway, my dream vehicle is a Titanium frame 5000$ road bike lol
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Average speed will increase with time - but don't get too hung-up on average speed for now, focus more on technique (eg cadence), riding at a reasonably easy pace but including a few burst of hard effort in each ride (eg riding hard up a short hill, or as fast as you can for 500 metres on the flat). This will probably lower your average speed at first but in the long term will make you faster.
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Friday, 06 August 2010
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By the way, did you use a bike computer to get the average? Just that they usually stop counting when you stop to mend a puncture? Might be worth getting one if you haven't already.
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Sunday, 29 August 2010
I average about 12 mph, (digital comp on bike) mostly flat here in central texas
Question I have is on equipment. Chain ring gears 48 big, I find myself running out of gears on some runs I do. Sometime I can maintain speeds with 48/16 Running out of gears. it is an 18 speed, 48/38/28, cogs 28 - 14
I am on a borrowed bike. If I was to buy a new bike, does the cost of a bike make a large difference in speed/performance? I know the old saying, you get what you pay for. I just dont know enough about buying a bike. What price change does it stop making a difference? Some prices is pure sticker shock lol lol
Any thoughts on gearing set up/ sizes? How big of a chain ring?
Thanks for any comments
Bob
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Monday, 30 August 2010
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Monday, 30 August 2010
I found it great to read all of your comments! I have a giant mountain bike, and I have been cycling for many years now. I am only in mid teens and I hope to get better and better at biking. I don't know my average speed , but I have been told by someone who does possess Speed sensor that I have managed to clock up about 30 mph going down a steep hill
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I'd avoid very cheap heavy bikes but once you get to decent brands then spending lots extra on a bike does not bring enormous benefits (in the UK £400-£600 is a good basic bike, not sure how prices compare in the US, a Trek 1.1 is a decent bike and should be a guide to the price of starter level bikes in your area). of course, if you're rich or sure you're going to be cycling a lot there's no harm in paying more...£1000-£2000 bikes can be excellent!
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Monday, 30 August 2010
I'd stick speed sensor (bike computer) on your next birthday list, they give lots of useful info and trying to work out distance / speed etc without one is pretty unreliable. A basic one should only cost about £20.
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Wednesday, 01 September 2010
Thanks for the reply
Great site
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Good luck with it, remember to come back and let us know how much it helped...
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Sunday, 12 September 2010
Cheers
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Tuesday, 14 September 2010
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Saturday, 18 September 2010
As a Triathlet I will go all out over 40k in a race and by feel over 180k - solo and always against the wind.
So people, have fun and forget about your speed - "Just do it"
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Thursday, 30 September 2010
For many years I did offroading, I switched to road riding 3 years ago when I moved to northern France. Started with a Trek 100 (brilliant bike) on which I usually averaged 16/17 mph. Upgraded to a Specialized Roubaix this year, expecting my average to increase with a carbon bike, and it actually went down to 14/15.5! Possibly due to Roubaix tyres (23/25) instead of Hutchison 23s and cushier ride?
I'm 58, 85kgs (13.5 stone) & do 3 or 4 rides a week on hilly or undulating terrain, each between 30 & 60 miles.
Bike is standard (Elite model), do you think a wheel upgrade would help?
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Thursday, 30 September 2010
Some bikes are just designed for a different type of cycling - yesterday I was reading a review of the Specialized S-Works Tarmac SL3 that concluded it was great for competition but very difficult to ride for 'everyday' riders and I'm wondering if the same applies with yours (the review was in October's Le Cycle magazine if you are still in France).
Other unexpected factors can also be important - see the chain and sprockets post I just added.
Terry makes this comment
Sunday, 03 October 2010
Setup is similar but more comfortable so that probably contributes to the drop in speed!
I'll look out for Le Cycle this week.
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Being 'too hot to carry on' isn't a big problem here at the moment unforunately...
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A cyclo-cross race in Norway in January sounds a bit challenging...hope it goes well for you.
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Take a look at new to cycling for other tales from cyclists coming back to cycling after a long break...
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Tuesday, 14 December 2010
One thing for sure - in the hills at least - biggest improvements seem to be from loosing weight and I don't mean the bike
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Best of luck with your cat 2 challenges!
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Sunday, 30 January 2011
Many thanks,
Owen
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Friday, 25 February 2011
Some of you on here sound really strong and thanks for this blog is does wonders to let people know how well they are doing
Colin makes this comment
Tuesday, 01 March 2011
I started riding again last May to lose weight and retrain myself to get competitive again. I was 45 years old, 275 pounds and averaged about 15mph on a 35 mile loop with 2,000 feet of climbing. My resting pulse was around 62 and bp was 110/70. Even though I was obese, I still felt I was in okay shape.
Today I'm now down to 220 pounds headed to 185 as a goal. On this morning's ride I averaged 19.4MPH with 2,000 feet of elevation gain. Average heart rate during the ride was 139.
I started doing hill repeats 4 weeks ago, and 9 weeks ago I started riding with a much faster group. All of this training really paid off today as I never looked at my speed (which I normally don't) until I was finished. I have learned to train myself by strictly knowing my best cadence and heart rate combination without looking at the speedo.
I love this sport. I have finished numerous centuries, and nearly completed a double earlier this year (I ran out of light). I ill finish my first double in 2 weeks.
Good luck to everyone out there.
Cheers!
Martin makes this comment
Tuesday, 01 March 2011
Been cycling now for about 2 years,after a break of 30 odd years .. starter really just to keep fit and lose a few 40 year old pounds off the belly..
Been on the turbo trainer over the winter months avg 13 miles a night with 25 / 30 miles at the weekend, so cannot wait until the lighter nights and get out there again ..
safe cycling
great site ..
Tony makes this comment
Wednesday, 09 March 2011
The frame is a specialised stumpjumper hard tail with some reasonable mavic wheels, hope hubs and a set of slick continental tyres (smallest I could fit). The gearing is 44t : 16t. My average speed over 20 miles is 15.7mph.
It looks like my times are too shabby given the equipment I'm riding but I'm now keen to understand what improvement I would make with a decent road bike. Also, on a budget of around £2,500 what I should spend my money on. Help anyone?
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Sunday, 20 March 2011
Two days ago i did 29.3 km/hr at 45 km.
When i started about october 2009 the best that i can do was 26.5km/hr at 36 km.
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Monday, 28 March 2011
Even if i push like hell, I burn out my legs, and only achieve an extra 0.1 K/h Getting tired of pushing so hard. Is there a point at which I should say, 'Grand. Thats fast enough - no need to try any more. just go out and cruise for a coupple of hours at 4 or 5 less than max capability. ???
pcwat makes this comment
Monday, 28 March 2011
Started cycling a year ago on a hybrid weighing in at 230lbs.
Got the bug and clocked up 150km per week averaging 28-30kmph.
Dropped to 175lbs and completed first 100km sportive in August.
Goal for this year is a few 160k sportives and 200km per week.
A great sport to take up in late 40's
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Tuesday, 29 March 2011
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Thursday, 31 March 2011
Ant, if you keep pushing (short intervals of maximum effort) you will get a bit faster - but if that doesn't matter to you don't bother, just enjoy yourself! Pleasure is the main thing...
Steve, I'd worry about riding for a while, slightly longer rides, before worrying about changing your bike. If you find you like cycling 'on-road' only, and going a bit faster sounds good, then think about a road bike - as a broad guess you should go perhaps 5-10% faster on a road bike (if you are not overweight yourself).
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Tuesday, 12 April 2011
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Tuesday, 19 April 2011
Essentially, next summer I have to manage around 140miles a day for 7 days. I’ve worked out that I will need to average around 15mph, riding for around 10 hours each day. I would like to see my avarage be around 20mph though. I am relatively fit but by no means an athlete. I can run 10K’s in around 45mins. Should I be doing some really heavy training for this or am I maybe scaring myself a little bit?
Also any road bike suggestions for a first timer would be really good.
All/any help is realy appreciated.
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Wednesday, 20 April 2011
Good luck, sounds like quite a challenge, be interested to hear how it goes!
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Wednesday, 20 April 2011
Sorry its probably in the wrong thread but can you suggest any good bikes for a tight budget that would do the job. I guess my budget is realistically around £350-400.
Thanks again, Greg
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Friday, 22 April 2011
I am 16 years old, 6 ft 2, weigh about 80 kilos. I used to play football as a hobby but recently quite and just took up the idea of attending a local gym ( for about 14 months now ) I am a cross country runner, nothing special, just runs for my school , running between 2.5 - just over 4 miles. I attend the gym 5 times a week, often doing either 20 minutes on the bike, or 20 mins on the treadmill. Recently I have actually enjoyed my time on the bike, much more than the treadmill, I pushed myself alot more the other day and done 15 kilometres in 28 or 29 minutes, cant quite remember. I appreciate that cycling in a gym is much easier than road cycling and cannot really be compared? Am I right?
Anyway I was just wondering if it is worth me buying a bike ( won't be able to spend much because im a student in sixth form ) and then maybe getting some experience and joining a club?
Thanks in advance
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Saturday, 14 May 2011
i just got back into cycling at christmas after 4 or more years off with back trouble
44 yrs old male im' now cycling about 180-220miles a week
one of my local routes just did it today
38 miles 1233ft of climbing
average speed 19.5 mph max speed 41.4mph average heart rate 145bmp avg cadence 89rpm
time 1h 56mins 12secs
8-10mph headwind on way out and the first half mile or so is a really small country lane so i only go about 14-15mph
temp today was 27.c
what do you guys think is this respectable or not ..?
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Saturday, 14 May 2011
200 miles per week is a lot of cycling, I have trouble finding time to do 100-120 miles per week, so I'm sure that will be helping you a lot.
Do you go slower at 27c do you think, I cycle quite a lot in the sun but temperatures much above 26-28 and I start slowing down a bit - my favourite temperature for cycling is around 20-24c.
Dave makes this comment
Monday, 16 May 2011
I had done a single loop mid week with an average of a little over 19mph. That one was after work, the weekend one was early(ish) on a Sunday morning so that may have ha some effect but I did also seem to have more times where spinning the cranks was feeling effortless rather than seeming like I had to put some power in so perhaps the increase was partly down to an improving technique as I get used to the new type of bike, is getting a better 'spin' on the cranks something other people have experienced going from an mtb/hybrid to a proper road bike?
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Tuesday, 17 May 2011
regarding the temperature where i live on a greek island
it gets quite warm in the 40's at times
so 27oc is just warming up for me you tend to get used to it
if i can though i like to go out early in a morning when it's cooler and also the wind is usually alot less as well..
although i mostly have to go in the afternoon after work and 8 times out of 10 there is a headwind genrally between 5-15 miles an hour i have this for the first 16-18 before miles or so before i start to head home
i also do another run up in the mountains with 2500ft of climbing 52.5 miles long i usually average about 17mph on this run it takes me around 3h 10mins
i tend to spend at least half my training on hills and mountains
so although it's hard work it really does pay off ..
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Sunday, 26 June 2011
I am 48 and have just bought my first serious road bike since i was in my teens. Been up and down the highways and byways of hilly Northumberland since Feb. Just completed a 67 mile stint in the Northern Rock Cyclone Challenge with a time of 3:56Hrs...Av speed of 17mph. And tbh i didn't find it that tough...
As i said ...it's all relative.
Les James makes this comment
Saturday, 02 July 2011
I do have a question tho. What constitutes an average ride/ average speed.
Is there a difference between a time trial speed where you probably spend all the ride on the drops and use max effort as opposed to riding more upright and perhaps looking more relaxed or does it all average out based on your overall fitness?
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Saturday, 02 July 2011
As you can see from all the great range of speeds reported in the comments above there is no such thing as an 'average speed' or 'average rider'.
Time trials are a particular skill and riders will typically warm up for a few kilometres first so they are sure of doing their best, but aerodynamics certainly plays a part - more so at higher speeds because the air resistance to be overcome is much greater at higher speeds.
For 'normal' rides, most riders will have a level of effort they know they can sustain for the given distance (rather than maximum effort which no one can sustain for very long) - and this level of effort depends on overall fitness and experience. So a fitter rider may be able to produce a constant 250 watts of effort, which will make them faster than someone who can only produce 200 watts over the same distance / terrain.
Andy B makes this comment
Thursday, 21 July 2011
In my late teens early twenties I used to do a short 6 mile ride at about 22mph on the flat and the drop off Lincoln ridge my speed peaked at about 45mph on an old Ralleigh tourer (I used to race the school bus - I'd beat it when the ridge was in my favour but only once beat it on the return!). With hindsight I probably ought to have tried to get into a club as it seems that's not a bad speed...
15 years, 6st, 2 kids later and I'm trying to get back into it a bit. I've got a decent road bike second hand off a friend who I'd have no hope of keeping up with. I'm using Endomondo GPS sports tracker on my blackberry (having got a handlbar mount off Amazon) - this setup works really well.
It's a bit demoralising seeing how unfit I am compared to my youth however I guess it gives a target and I should be able to see some initial rapid improvement. I just did:
Distance 14.33 km
Duration 34m:39s
Avg Speed 24.8 km/h
Max Speed 49.9 km/h
Which works out at 15.5mph. The nice thing about this distance for me is that I work from home part of the week so I can hopefully get out at lunchtimes and work on improving personal best around a few loops...
The thing that kills my average is hills - I just really struggle, on the flat I can fairly easily and consistantly stay over 25km/h however when I hit a hill I almost crawl - a climb of 25m altitude in 3mins reduced me to 10km/h. I suppose being 98KG at the moment doesn't help however any tips people have on dealing with these sorts of relative small hills appreciated...
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Thursday, 21 July 2011
(I work from home all the time - makes it much easier to fit cycling in when you're not stuck in traffic half your life)
Andy B makes this comment
Friday, 22 July 2011
I adjusted my saddle height and moved it back a bit. I also rode more of the ride on top of the bars rather than using the drops for most of it - so hopefully my neck will be less sore after this time! I used the drops for high speed sections and fast corners. I had a slight twinge in my left knee after last time out which I think was down to saddle being too high - much better this time. May also have been helped by me maintaining a more constant higher cadence than last time.
The hills still effected me quite badly however I managed the smaller ones far better and maintained my speed through those (the speed trace from the GPS is far smoother). Pedalling in circles, using the tops of the bars, and attacking the hills a bit more all helped.
Distance 14.35 km
Duration 32m:46s
Avg Speed 26.3 km/h
Max Speed 53.2 km/h
So an improvement in average speed of getting on for 1mph - not too bad - though I don't expect to see the same improvement next time...I think I'll try a longer route at the weekend and then return to this one lunch next week. Competing with myself is a great motivator it seems
Thanks again for all the great articles and taking the time to respnd to so many comments!
Cheers
Andy
Jolly makes this comment
Sunday, 24 July 2011
1. use hills to your advantage and push yourself to be good at them(being stronger on the hills will make you better on the flat).
2. wind makes a real difference to speed, practise a good aero tuck that your comfy with.
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Wednesday, 03 August 2011
Starting at avg spd 15.4mph, Max sp 31mph, 654 calories, 6mph up steepest hill, now at 17.9mph, max 33.7mph, cal 674, 8mph up steepest hill...happy with that though think there's still plenty of room for improvement on all those stats
Think I'll now look for a slightly longer course and return to this one in a few weeks...with a new target of 18.6 mph (30km/h) - just under 29mins...
Jolly, thanks for tips, I've made another minor tweak to my set up today (saddle fwd slightly) and oiled my gear levers (were slightly sticky last time out). Also I've been working on the hills and as can be seen above I've been improving... I've been attacking them much more and looking at it as an investment that pays off when I go down the other side!
Admin F.Y.I. a mere 66ft of ascent
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Thursday, 11 August 2011
This site has been enormously helpful, and inspired me to seriously monitor my speed and progression. Thank you!!
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Friday, 19 August 2011
50 yrs old riding 25 to 30 miles 3 or 4 times a week...speed and pace have improved as expected.
MY area (so.FL) is reasonably flat...but the wind is almost always blowing..the westerlies can be 15-20 most of the time....point being the back half of my ride is usually pretty tough....i am averging about 16 to 17 mph over 20-25 miles....use a garmin...so i have all the settings that give me great feedback...cadence pace per mile blalhhlhlhl...
i set my goalsfor spped increase and thus better time...sprint work ..intervals all that stuff...
Now the question...if i get rid of the 2001 cannondale r600...and get a nice new shink 1500-to 1700 bike...do i pick up any speed all other things being equal.....I having a hard time believeing all the Lance (cheater) Armstrong stuff) that it all about the rider....10 year new tech has to help some?
Admin makes this comment
Friday, 19 August 2011
Unfortunately the benefit of changing bike seem to vary a lot according to the rider - I know someone who increased their speed about 10% by going to carbon fibre, my own improvement was much smaller than that - I've carried on improving since getting it but don't know how much is me and how much is the bike.
Weight is the most critical element, but comfort over the distance you are riding and being a really good fit are also important.
Harder to explain, but some bikes are just great to ride, more responsive, snappy up hills, very stable downhill etc. But these aren't necessarily money related differences, more that some riders just suit certain bikes - the big challenge is always knowing which bike will be great for you
(for me it's a trek madone for the time being).
On balance I think you will notice a significant improvement on a carefully chosen new bike, but can't guess how much of an improvement - it also depends if your bike is holding you back - there is less benefit from a great bike for a rider who is significantly overweight or just not used to cycling much.
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Saturday, 20 August 2011
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Friday, 02 September 2011
Proj London Health makes this comment
Monday, 05 September 2011
Recently I have moved from a mountain bike to a road bike and the diffence in speed and reduction of effort is a good 30 ~ 40%. Hear rate is lower, ave flat speed for me on my own is now c.21MPH, but need to work on the Gluts & Hamstrings for the hills.
An Ex Latvian professional suggests to focus on time & technique rather than speed, this will automatically come with the ground work you put in.
Dan makes this comment
Tuesday, 06 September 2011
I've been riding a MB for the last 6 weeks getting an avg around 27.5 kph for 11k around town.
My first two rides on the road bike doing the same route in town weren't much different. I had my first real trip out of town today and the difference was amazing. The first half I was cruising around 27kph and the second half was more like 34/35 kph (hit some strong wind about 4k from home that really took my avg down). I managed 30.1 kph over 24.4k
It's obvious I need to up my distances. I was riding the MB about 4 or 5 times a week so I expect to keep that up. There are no real flats (more than 1k) on my route, the wind was blowy the whole way and road surface is shocking (I'm living about 70k south of Budapest currently).
My bum was as sore as whatits by the end but that might be a combination of the seat position (a long way forward and pointing down quite a bit) and my weight. I'm currently 103 kilos - about 16 stone 3 which has come down from 117.5kilos - 18 stone 7. Have got a long way to go!
I've read that I should think more about interval training and my cadance but is there an easy way to measure cadence without an expensive computer (mine doesn't have it)? There are no cycle clubs near me so I'm always going to be alone.
I'm going to build up my distances but my goal is to average over 20 mph for 50k. Probably won't get there this year as winters are harsh here and will have to put the bike away until spring. At least the temp has dropped today - down about 10C to 22C and that was easier!
Any tips gratefuly received!
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Thursday, 08 September 2011
Dan makes this comment
Monday, 12 September 2011
After writting that I needed to up my distances I think I went a bit mad. It maybe a normal distance for most of you but 60km for my 4th ride on a road bike.
Anyway;
Trip 4: 60km, 2h 6mins avg 28.6 kph
Trip 5: 41.6km, 1h 22 mins, avg 30.3 kph
Trip 6: 26.3km, 50 mins, avg 31.5 kph
Treated myself to some padded shorts and gloves, used the 88% inside leg measurement to setup the saddle height and pain/times are improving.
Only lost 2kg this week. Was expecting more. I'm still over 100kg and I think that's my biggest problem. That and the terrible road surfaces here. I've been cycling different routes trying to find the best road. I've found a great road but there are road signs saying no bikes. Might have to play the ignorant foreigner if I get stopped - the road looks amazing compared to the bone rattlers I've been on recently.
Will think about measuring my pedal revs and also want to start thinking about the pedal circle - a good article on this site. Don't have clip ins yet to help with the pedal circle but after reading the article it's not the most important thing.
I'll try to update next week.
Admin makes this comment
Tuesday, 13 September 2011
PS I'm a big fan of clipless pedals - I don't suppose they make a great difference to my speed but they do make the experience more enjoyable and they feel more professional.
Proj London Health makes this comment
Friday, 16 September 2011
I monitor my fitness level by going up hills, and specifically one hill which is straight,just over half a mile long, and a c.9~10% gradient. The first couple of weeks was an in the saddle ride, but watching the speedo drop from 9, to 8, to 7 and I recall even down to 6MPH.
Now, I'm out of the side for the first half of the hill at c.13MPH, with the remainder in the seat toggling between 8 & 9 MPH...... a clear improvment!
Proj London Heath 'Sunday Cycle Group' are doing a Dulwich to Charwell by Gatwick (50 mile round trip) ride this Sunday and will be facing one of the most challening hills in Surrey, Reigate Hill.
Will advise of the max speed going down, and the ave speed going up on the way back.
Best!
McCabe.
ps. just bought your GOLD insurance
Proj London Health makes this comment
Monday, 19 September 2011
As promised, figures from the 'all singing & dancing' bike computer:
High level figures!
C. 60-miles
1860 Cals
Ave speed 13.4MPH
Max Speed 41MPH
The calories burnt are measured via heart rate / cadence making it more accurate. So..., 41MPH down Reigate Hill was nice until the front wheel went into a violent wobble so had to back off. After Gatwick we chose to come back via Dorking and climb Box Hill.... very good fun!
Anyone out there achieved Yorks Hill near Westerham at ease? This is a hill you ride up rather than down... it has a 12.5% gradient with 2 lots of 25% gradients for c.1/2-mile. That is now on my TO DO list.
McCabe
Project London Health
Guy makes this comment
Monday, 26 September 2011
I am currently riding a heavy old Specialized Rockhopper MTB in the Lake District (near Keswick), so there is an awful lot of climbing and it's hard going on my MTB. Over 10-30 miles I am averaging a speed of 13mph, but am hoping to see quite a change in that when I pick up my new road bike in a couple of weeks.
I hope I'm being realistic in looking to see a marked change in average speed.
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Thursday, 29 September 2011
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Tuesday, 04 October 2011
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Saturday, 08 October 2011
Flite99 makes this comment
Monday, 10 October 2011
A month ago a freinnd of mine was selling his rather nice road bike (he had only put about 20 km on it
Today I managed 51 kms @ an average 23km/h, 20 km/h headwind outbuond plus lots of rolling hills in the Annapolis Valley area of Nova Scotia Canada. I'm 58 y.o. 200 pounder.
Going back to the original post, I wanted to go further but my legs didn't. Any good suggestions?
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Tuesday, 11 October 2011
alan makes this comment
Monday, 17 October 2011
The difference in time is amazing from 71 mins this morning to my personal best 42 mins or the average of 51 mins.
In contrast if the weather is really bad i can go round by beauly which is 23 miles- its flat and relatively sheltered unless its an easterly wind- i tend to do this in aroun 60- 65 mins!
In other words there are loads of variable which can affect ure speed and its hard enough to compare the same ride never mind compare different people on differnt routes!
alan
Proj London Health makes this comment
Friday, 21 October 2011
On the other end of the speed scale I was proud to hit c.3MPH on White Lane, by Tatsfield, Kent. This hill is c.700m and is so step that you are almost stationary by the top, I guess the last bit must be about 25 - 30% gradient.
Next on my list is Ide Hill which is I recall just under 2-miles which neatly takes you up to York Hill, the location of the UK's oldest race (held a couple of weeks back). This is on my 'To Do' list when back from Cornwall.
Hills, don't we just love them!
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Wednesday, 26 October 2011
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Wednesday, 26 October 2011
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Thursday, 10 November 2011
chris makes this comment
Thursday, 10 November 2011
If you are a recreational cyclist and anywhere near 20-22 -- you're in great shape, kudos!
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Tuesday, 29 November 2011
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Monday, 05 December 2011
anto makes this comment
Monday, 05 December 2011
Male 49Yrs old 90 Kg. 60 to 80 Km per week (2 or 3 outings of 20 to 40) Good conditions Flat terain, no wind ... 26 kmh avg, Max (down hill - there is a short hill, nothing much - near my home.) 50 kmh. Mild to moderate breeze, brings it down to 23 or 24 kmh. It is a round trip so you might to expect to gain back what you lost into the wind - but it never seems to work that way.
fn_tool makes this comment
Tuesday, 06 December 2011
I've used speed as measure of how I improved, but decided that Cadence might be a better measure. This is how I found this forum. I haven't changed my diet much yet, but I really felt that my gut would have started to shrink by now...the main difference in my body is that my legs are like tree trunks now, dropped all the fat from them, but nowhere else yet. I can pedal (both flat spinning & pushing hard on the climbs) at about a 70rpm average, I use a pretty wide range of gears on both bikes. My goal is 80rpm for the commute both ways, either bike. I guess I need to figure out how to get some longer rides into my routine.
Admin makes this comment
Wednesday, 07 December 2011
As you say, longer rides are also important since your commute is not long enough for a good warm-up effort and a sustained effort and increase in heart rate afterwards.
Dan hoskin makes this comment
Tuesday, 10 January 2012
I have done 5 rides and I can't believe how
Fast I am progressing I am 17 stone 6ft 3 muscular
Build and worried that I'd be too heavy
To cycle but I have 28 inch thighs and really strong legs
I live in Cornwall (really windy and hilly) and I done
37 miles and averaged just under 19mph I was out in a
Pair but led 80% as my m8 was burning out much faster
Than me I also overtook a moped at 37mph on the flat
Which I found quite funny cycling is awsum!
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Thursday, 12 January 2012
Chris makes this comment
Wednesday, 18 January 2012
I commute 15.2 miles each way, 2-3 times per week into Central London. I'd love to be able to work on improving my average speed in a meaningful way, but with 81 sets of traffic lights on the route, it's random to say the least!!!
Ian S makes this comment
Friday, 27 January 2012